Posted by Illuminati on 7/3/2009, 11:15 am, in reply to "Re: Jesus' Divinity 7"
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Amir Posted:
""""I have already given you more than one such text. Twice in Daniel, God gives the son of man power and authority so that everyone will worship Him. That is a direct statement. The problem is that when I give you the statement, you try to avoid its meaning by equvocating about the translation."""""
There is nothing which mentions that the one in Daniel is indeed Jesus.He was called Son Of God but so what?There were others who ere called Son of God in the Bible.
Secondly the translation is as much important because else the interpretation would be wrong.
Amir, you have asked me for Biblical evidence that Jesus is God and that He is supposed to be worshipped. I have provided that evidence. Because the evidence is strong, but you don't want to accept it, you can argue about the translation and about the meaning of words. Since you don't believe the Bible, it seems more logical to simply admit that the Bible doesn't support your beliefs. Christians do understand their own holy books.
Shall we argue about what the word "is" means? Those are the arguments of sophists and equivocators.
Amir posted:
""""Absolutely. What else could it mean?""""
It means that the Bible is emphasizing on the special relationship of Isaac.
And no Abraham had 2 sons not one.I wonder why u are using such a riduculous argument when the Bible itself says that Abraham had 2 sons.So your interpretation is wrong....Read the words in Bold.It says "TWO SONS" doesn t it?
So why are u feigning to be unaware of it?
I'm afraid I don't follow your argument here. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be "feigning" here.
Amir posted:
""""Since we both have the Bible, we each have a choice. Either we can believe Jesus and be saved through Him, or we can reject His words and be lost. Here is what Jesus said:""""
The Law of Moses is the way to Eternal Life according to Jesus.He never claimed that we have to believe in his resurection to be saved.
Jesus said:"I am the way and the truth and the life.No one comes to the Father except through me.If we take the meanings of this verse in the same context in Luke 10:25-28 and the other verses that teach about love,harmony and forgiveness, then we would clearly see that the way that Jesus talked about is the goodness in you.
Accepting Jesus as the mediator between you and GOD Almighty (believing that Jesus died on the cross to purify your sins) is not necessary to win Eternal Life.
Amir, you don't have to believe what Jesus said. That is your choice. Here is what Jesus said:
John 10:7-10
7 Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full
NIV
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