Posted by Illuminati on 7/3/2009, 10:01 am, in reply to "Re: NIV Defended 2"
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Amir posted:
""""Amir, you are confusing the Masoretic Hebrew text with the Greek translation called the Septuagint.""""
No i'm not.What i'm saying is that these words do not figure in either the Septuagint or the Masoretic texts.
Those words are in my Septuagent, in Greek of course.
Amir posted:
""""Absolutely not. Jesus statement is in perfect agreement with the Biblical record. Moses saw Jesus, Jehovah, not His Father. Jesus' human form is the form in which God appears to humans.""""
The Bible makes it clear that no man can see God at anytime,yet Christians believe Jesus is God. Hence you are still looking at God.So if u are telling me that Moses saw Jesus then according to the Bible Jesus cannot be God.
The Old Testament states repeatedly that people have seen Jehovah. Jehovah is God. The New Testament states repeatedly that people have seen Jesus, who is also God. However, since God is not a material being but is spirit, what people saw in the Old Testament, and what they saw when they saw Jesus, was the physical manifestation of God. Because God is infinite, He can assume physical form, but that form is not a complete manifestation of God. In His spirit form, we can not see Him. In other words, although people have seen God, they have not seen Him as He is in Himself. Incidentally, the same could be said about human spirits. When we see a person, we don't see them as they are in themselves. The philosopher, Kant, has pointed out that we can not even perceive the material world as it is in itself.
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