Posted by Amir on 5/28/2009, 4:30 pm, in reply to "Isaiah"
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"This passage presents Jesus, the Messiah, who has suffered for our sins. He suffered our punishment for our sins. By becoming our vicarious substitute, Jesus provided us with unlimited forgiveness, unlimited love, and unlimited possibilities for righteousness."
The Bible rejects atonement:
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. (Ezekiel 18:20)
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers:every man shall be put to death for his own sin.(Deuteronomy 24:16)
The Bible rejects "sin offering"
Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but my ears you have pierced; burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require. (Psalms 40:6)
You do not delight in sacrifice,or I would bring it;you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. (Psalms 51:16)
All a man's ways seem right to him, but the LORD weighs the heart. To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.(Proverbs 21:2-3)
Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil?Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?He has showed you, O man, what is good.And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.(Micah 6:7-8)
"It says God has prolonged Jesus’ days, and that Jesus will divide the spoils with the strong. This chapter of Isaiah contains the gospel of Jesus Christ long before Jesus was born. Along with the elaborate sin offerings in the temple service, Isaiah 53 explains the plan of salvation through the suffering and death of the Messiah."
Jesus did not "prolong his days";his ministry lasted only three years,he departed at the age of 33.
"And yet, although Jesus was killed, He did see the light, and He was satisfied with the results of His perfect life."
The words "light of life" do not appear in the Septuagint.the words "light of life" were inserted to support a Christian interpretation.
"Jesus didn’t die because “he was helpless.” He died because His Father allowed the wicked people to torture and kill Him."
I get a very different image when i read the Bible.
Psalm 37:28
For the LORD loves the just and will not forsake(azab) his faithful ones. They will be protected forever, but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off;
Why did the Lord forsake Jesus(peace be upon him) when he clearly said he did not forsake his faithful ones?
"Jesus knew and consented to His sacrifice."
Is it?Did Jesus say that his mission was crucufixion?
Luke 4:43
But he said, "I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because THAT IS WHY I WAS SENT."
And from Mark 1:38
Jesus replied, "Let us go somewhere else—to the nearby villages—so I can preach there also.THAT IS WHY I HAVE COME."
"To reject Jesus’ teachings and His life is to reject Jesus Himself."
Jesus' teachings?Are christians today really following Jesus ' teachings.I don t think so.
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