Posted by Amir on 4/23/2009, 12:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Jesus(peace be upon him)"
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Let us look at the Chapter of Isaiah 53 in the Bible:
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Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
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He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
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He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
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Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
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But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
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We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
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He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
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By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
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He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death [Here is how the literal translation says: "And it appointeth with the wicked his grave, And with the rich [are] his high places"..though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
"in his death" is also a false translation to the Hebrew Mawth. At the worst, it should be translated as "in death", making the word a symbolic one as further confirmed in the Hebrew lexicon:
"in his death
maveth (maw'-veth)
death (natural or violent); concretely, the dead, their place or state (hades); figuratively, pestilence, ruin -- (be) dead(-ly), death, die(-d)."
Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. According to Christianity, Jesus Christ was single and never married nor did he have children. This verse clearly refutes Christianity, because the Servant here will live to see his biological children ("his offspring") along with his days being prolonged (made longer). Christ died at the young age of 33 according to Christianity, which is also against this verse. Christs' years are short in Christianity, while in Isaiah 53:10, the servant's years are very long and extended along with him living them with his biological children.
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After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
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Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death [It doesn't at all mean that he will die. The literal translation says: "Because that he exposed to death his soul"...and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Isaiah 5:12 "....because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors....."
This verse doesn't clearly state that the predicted servant will actually die. It could be easily read as he will defeat, overpower and/or escape death. Also, when we study carefully the poetical literature of Isaiah 53, and study carefully the claims made above, we see that "him pouring his life unto death" means that the goodness that he will bring from GOD Almighty will be the light that will bring his people from darkness (death) into light (goodness). He will defeat death (darkness). Isaiah 5:12 does not state that he will die. It clearly states that he will shadow or overwhelm death by his life.
If I, for instance, pour my cup of cranberry juice on the white carpet, then I would create a big red spot on the carpet. I wouldn't be changing the juice into carpet, or the carpet into juice. No, I would simply defeat the whiteness of the carpet by the color of the juice. That's what pouring the juice on the carpet means.
Same thing applies with the servant pouring his life unto death. GOD Almighty considers evil doing and not believing in Him as equal to death.
Important Note: In many Verses in the Bible, we see that GOD Almighty used in Hebrew, Sheol, the word for "hell" as the same Hebrew word for "death". That is why the Christian Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in "Hell Fire" as punishment for the unbelievers. They believe that "Hell" is actual "Death". So to put it in other words, Isaiah 53:12 could also mean that the Servant (Jesus) will over shadow or cover "hell (death)" with "life (good)". So whoever believes in that Servant from the People of Israel will be saved from hell or death.
Have Isaiah 53:12 clearly said "and he will die for people's sins and resurrect after 3 days", then we would have nothing to argue about. So Jesus pouring his life (good) unto death (bad), means that whomever believes in his message from the People of Israel will defeat bad (darkness) and will be saved, and will have Jesus' life (goodness). This perfectly matches what Islam claims about our beloved Prophet Jesus peace be upon him.
Both Muslims and Christians believe that the grave of Jesus today is empty.It doesn't have his body in it, because both believe that he was raised to Heaven.The difference between Muslims and Christians in this issue is that Muslims believe that Jesus never died on the cross but was raised to GOD Almighty.Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross, was buried in the grave (obviously his foot would've struck at least one stone!), and was resurrected to GOD Almighty.
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