Posted by Amir on 4/23/2009, 12:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Jesus(peace be upon him)"
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" I suspect that it is his followers who invented this theory so they don't have to obey the Bible."
Even if what u say is true it doesn t make sense.If the followers were sure that the bible was from God then why reject it?Wouldn t that be similar to rejecting the word of God?
The question is why do Muslims even claim to obey Jesus when they reject Him?
The Gospel of Matthew shows that Jesus "fasted forty days and forty nights" (Matthew 4:2). The Gospel of Luke adds the detail that "in those days he did eat nothing; and when they were ended, he afterward hungered" (Luke 4:2). Since Jesus fasted, his true followers will also fast, if they indeed follow his teachings. He said, "If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed" (John 8:31). People had complained to Jesus saying, "Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisess; but thine eat and drink?" (Luke 5:33). But Jesus replied that as long as he is with them his disciples should not fast, but after he is taken away then "they will fast in those days" (Luke 5:35). This is why Jesus also gave them instructions on how to fast for the sake of God (Matthew 6:16-18).
If they were never to fast, such instructions would be pointless. The Bible shows that the disciples were fasting afterwards: "they had fasted and prayed" (Acts 13:3), and again they had "prayed with fasting" (Acts 14:23). The Bible mentions fasting as one of the observances of a minister of God (2 Corinthians 6:5), and "fastings often" as a proof of the worth of a disiple of Jesus. Luke 5:33 quoted above reveals that a) fasting means abstinence from eating an drinking, and b) that although the disciples were not to fast until after Jesus was taken away, Jesus himself continued to fast, otherwise the complaint would have been against him also. It is clear that the Jewish Rabbis were fasting (Matthew 9:14, and Mark 2:18). Jesus too was called a Rabbi (see John 1:38, 3:2, 6:25 and Matthew 23:8). So he too must have been fasting.
The disciples were unable to drive out a demon from a boy, but Jesus drove it out. When the disciples asked how he did it, he said that this kind can be driven out only "by prayer and fasting" (Mark 9:29). This shows that because the disciples were not fasting they could not drive out the demon, and that Jesus could drive it out because he was fasting. Some copyists attempted to change this verse by leaving out the words 'and fasting'. This is how, for example, the Revised Standard version reads. But this reading gives the passage an impossible meaning that Jesus's disciples were not praying either. This is perhaps why the Catholic Edition of the Revised Standard version restores the words' and fasting'. The New Testament from the Ancient Eastern Text also includes the words 'and fasting' (Mark 9:29). God rescued us from this uncertainty by revealing his final incorruptible message in which He instructs all able believers to fast for a month each year. Today Jesus's true followers are still fasting according to God's pure instructions. Muslims are the true followers of Jesus and all of God's Messengers.
"I want to know the actual teachings of the Koran itself."
The Noble Quran came to confirm Truth that exists in the Bible. Allah Almighty never claimed that the bible is fully and 100% Divine.If the "Bibles" of today, with all their versions and differences in the quantity of their "books" and "gospels", were in fact the Original Holy Word of GOD Almighty, then there would be no need for the Noble Quran.
Sheikh Abdurrahman Abdul-Khaaliq states:
"The Torah, the Old Testament, and the Gospel, the New testament, still contain some truth and guidance that can be evidence against Jews and Christians. If they implemented their laws, Jews and Christians would believe in the Prophet Muhammad's message, confirming what was sent before him, and thus would follow the guidance and light. Muhammad was sent down with clear evidence to his truthfulness and he followed the path of the Prophets before him, who were sent to the Jews and the Christians."
[Sheikh Abdurrahman Abdul-Khaaliq. "The Bible's Testimony that Jesus is the Slave-Servant, and Messenger of Allah." pg. 8. The Daar of Islamic Heritage 1994]
So there we go. It is worth noting that the Quran does not mention any "Bible" or "Mathew", "Mark", "Genesis", "Numbers" etc. The Quran only mentions the Tauraat revealed to Musa (Moses) peace be upon him and the Injeel (Gospel) revealed to Esa (Jesus) peace be upon him. Not any Gospel "according to Mathew" etc. The Quran is MUHAYMIN over the previous scriptures (5:48), meaning criteria, watcher-over, control, guardian, dominant, trustworthy, witness, rectifying etc. So whatever agrees with the Quran we accept that we reject whatever disagrees with the Quran. The present day Jewish Christian scriptures may contain truth in them, we do not deny that, however their also contain the words of man and errors, interpolations and deletions. A Muslim is commanded to use the Quran as the judge (5:48) to separate the truth from falsehood.
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