Posted by Amir on 4/8/2009, 9:31 am, in reply to "Selective quoting avoids the truth"
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I usually don t discuss with ignorant people of your kind but i m,ust refute your points since these gives the false insight for those who don t know about islam.
"* A woman is worth one-half a man. 2:282 ; and males are to inherit twice that of females. 4:11"
Nowhere in the Quran is it stated that a woman is worth half a man. The translation of the Quran on which this statement is based on tells us that concerning financial agreements two female witnesses equal to one male witness.
Since financial responsibility was shouldered by men in those days and even in majority of the households today, they are expected to be well versed in financial transactions as compared to women. As a second option, the witness can be one man and two women, so that if one of the women errs the other can remind her. The Arabic word used in the Quran is ‘Tazil’ which means ‘confused’ or ‘to err’. Many have wrongly translated this word as ‘to forget’.
There are some scholars who are of the opinion that the rule of two female witnesses equal to one male witness should be applied to all the cases. This cannot be agreed upon because one particular verse of the Qur’an from Surah Noor chapter 24, verse 6 clearly equates one female witness and one male witness.
"Lewd women are to be confined to their houses until death."
The above statement is based on Chapter 4, verse number 15. Firstly, we see the Noble Quran makes it almost impossible to prove a woman guilty of lewdness, because the court needs at least four reliable witnesses to prove that she actually committed a sin by having illegal sex. The reason for that is because A woman's honor is of primary importance to Islam and thus the method to prove lewdness is formulated such that no one can falsely accuse women. The woman is innocent until 4 witnesses are presented to prove that she is guilty of sin. The witnesses are supposed to be honorable, trustworthy and truthful men, not just any four people. If the witnesses are not presented in the Court of law, the following verse explains the end result:
"And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 24:4)"
When the woman is proven guilty, then her punishment is to stay at her husband’s house. Her husband must not divorce her at first and must work it out with her. Anti-Islamics claim that "confine them to houses until death do claim them" means that husbands must imprison the wives in the houses until they die. Well this is a false and bogus claim, because:
(1) In Arabic, the word which was wrongly translated as "Confine" is "Fa-Amsikuhunna" which means keep them and does not mean at all to imprison them. The word "Confine them" in Arabic is "Fa-Asjinohunna" or "Fa-Ahbisohunna". The word "Fa-Amsikuhunna" which was used in the Noble Verse 4:15 only means "keep them" and not imprison them.
The second part of the sentence "…or Allah ordain for them some (other) way. (4:15)" Means in Arabic "Aou yaj-aala Allah lahunna sabeela" which means that if they repent then Allah Almighty will let them go on their ways by allowing the men to either divorce them or keep them as their wives. This is something that both spouses have to workout and decide on. If the woman was not married, then this verse applies to the parents or the guardians.
Finally, (3) In (4:17) above we see that Allah Almighty accepts the repentance of those who do evil "Allah accept the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance…(4:17)", which totally disproves the Anti-Islamic point about imprisoning the women in their houses until they die, because Allah Almighty forgives those (men and women) who repent and He accepts their repentance.
"You can't have married women, unless they are captives."
Again the same old trik but anyway:ONLY IF THE CAPTIVE CONVERT TO ISLAM ,AND AGREE TO MARRY.
Firstly when a captive will convert to Islam, her marriage with the previous husband will become void automatically because a believing woman cannot be the wife of a disbeliever. However, you still cannot FORCE them to marry you. They along with people that are allowed to marry “are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers..”(4:24)
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