Posted by ato on 4/4/2009, 4:29 am
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From: First Apostle James
To: Brandon
Cc: webmaster@antichrist.net
Subject: Re: science?....right.
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:22:03 -0500
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, you wrote:
>
> I doubt you'll listen, I doubt you'll care, but as a Christian, it is my
> duty to speak to those who are lost.
This is known as indoctrination technique, it is used by all cults to
attain new members. Only religions which practice this offensive technique of
forcing their will upon others have survived (as logically only those should)
while benign religions which do NOT impose their will under penalty of the
sword, fear of suffering in some kind of hell, or whatever have died out (as
have the benign religions such as the wiccans, and pagans).
BTW, I do listen, and I do care, and I have been told that I am
"christ-like" by more than one person who knows me personally. Unlike you
christians, I am free of hate, tho I do feel frustration sometimes. ;o)
> You don't think you are lost, in
> fact you probably think that I've given into a myth, but let me ask you
> this: This so called 'myth', that has worked miracles and prophecies in my
> life for the past 20 years, how is it that his prophecies are all correct?
Prophecies are often subjective and misinterpreted. Miracles happen to
me too, only I wonder at the amazing properties of "life" not fictitious gods.
> Why does it speak of a 200,000,000 man army in the east and China reached
> that number in 1996?
The bible speaks of a lot of things that make absolutely no sense
unless you go _way_ out on a limb with your "interpretations". Jules Verne
prophesied in his fictional tales, with incredible accuracy, how life would be
today. So did Arthur C. Clarke when he wrote about global communications
satellites WAY before sputnik was ever launched. These men were visionaries,
they were NOT gods. The same may hold true, but to a far lesser extent for your
favorite work of fiction, the christian bible, tho it is poorly written.
> Why does the bible speak of pillars of smoke, blood
> and death that rise to the heavens, thousands of years before a nuclear
> bomb was ever created?
Pillars of smoke, rise into the heavens (what we now know to be outer
space)? One interpretation could be nuclear bombs exploding. Another could be
a forest fire which also produced pillars of smoke rising high into the
stratosphere, and along with it blood and death of everything in its path.
Interpretation of scripture is subjective, and as all things subjective, can be
manipulated to suit ANY particular purpose, especially if you ignore the parts
that don't fit, and concentrate on the parts that do.
> Why does it speak of a revived roman empire before
> the E.U. decided to move towards that direction?
If the EU forms a conjoined army, they will not call it the "Roman"
army, it will be the EU Army or something similar.
> Why does it speak of
> increased seismic acitivity and there have been more earthquakes in the
> past 50 years than the previous 300?
Did we have seismography back 300 years ago? Do you know why today
people freak out over a few parts per BILLION of lead in their water, when just
10 years ago it was undetectable, because our technology at that point only
could detect down to parts per MILLION? We detect more earthquakes as the
equipment used to detect them is improving year by year. You are failing to
understand the Principia Scientia, as do all religionists.
> Why does it speak of stange weather
> and increased terrorism?
You only know of more terrorism because the "world has gotten smaller"
thanks to global communications. When I was a kid, we knew nothing of the
Soviet Union, but today I see news from the Russian Federation daily (on the
web). Just because we have access to more information does not mean that
terrorism, or warfare is any greater today than it always has been.
> You want a whose who of prophecy coming true
> today, you can do two things: grab a bible and a newspaper and read
> comparatively, or go to www.glennbeck.com and their end of the world link.
> Where you can see close to a hundred prophecies of GOD, GOD, GOD that have
> ALREADY COME TRUE!
Again, prophecies are subjective, I'm sure I can interpret them with
equal accuracy to prove something completely different.
> Why is there a chip for your right hand that holds all
> of yout information?
The chip is not going to be embedded in the hand, where it can be
broken. "The Chip" or "biochip" as some call it is not new. Biometric tags
(as we scientists call them) have been around for years, I began using them with
laboratory animals in the early 1980's. Back then however, they were much
larger and only contained a unique identifier (serial number). Later they
would give the ID number, and the body temperature. Today they can hold vast
amounts of information, including complete medical history. The optimum place
to insert a biometric tag in a human would be in inner upper arm, just below
the armpit of either arm. Very little direct impact (which could break the
glass capsule) occurs in that part of the body. That will be where they will
be implanted as that is where implants are placed today (glass birth control
implants for example). In laboratory animals, we used the neck.
> Why has Jerusalem become a nation again, like GOD
> foretold? Why has the red heiffer been born so they can rebuild the temple
> in Jerusalem after 2000 years without one? You answer me those questions,
> if you would.
"God" said there was a flood, that covered all the mountain tops.
Where did that water recede to? If both polar ice caps were to melt, the oceans
would rise 28cm, hardly enough to get your feet wet! :o) Again I point out,
there are many provable falsehoods in the bible.
> I have already prayed for you. I have prayed that GOD takes peace from
> your mind and from your sleep.
Shame on you! Wishing ill will upon others is wrong! I don't wish bad
things upon YOU! Why do you christians always ask your god to SMITE YOUR
ENEMIES, when we atheists (and antichrists) wish only that we all just get
along! I don't wish ill upon you, but I do have pity for you and your black
heart. I hope someday atheism smiles upon you and brings you true love, which
comes from true knowledge and understanding of our Universe.
BTW, what does your deity jesus say about wishing ill upon others?
Given that, I'll save you a place in hell, right next to me. ;o)
> I pray that Jesus shows you the truth
> before it's too late.
The only thing that "shows the light" is people such as yourself who
work as unpaid recruitment officers for the industry known as religion.
> You may not believe in heaven or hell, but I
> guarantee you they both exist.
Prove it. As a Scientist, I am _forced_ to prove everything, yet
nobody is forced in religion to prove any of it is true (because it can only be
proven false, so they don't try). If heaven (what we know today to be outer
space) exists, then prove it to me.
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