Posted by Illuminati on 11/2/2007, 11:09 pm, in reply to "Let me repeat my point"
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If anyone still doesn't understand the logical fallicy in Emir's argument from science, he needs to understand that the "facts" which Emir presented, which he thought proved the scientific accuracy of the Koran, are not facts of science at all, but questions of history. That is why the scientists' statements were of no value. Emir's argument was really an argument from history about what information was available to the Muslims when they assembled the Koran and whether they included knowledge in the Koran which was unavailable at that time. That type of question could only be answered by a historian who was knowledgable in that era of history, not a scientist.
I personally have investigated the claims about the embryos and find the argument Emir advanced to be without merit. It turns out that the Greeks had done considerable research into natural phenomena by the time Mohammad lived. Although human embryos would be hard to study inside the mother, they became available for study when women had abortions or miscarriages. In addition, to fill out their information about the development of animal embryos the Greeks also had a much easier source for observation, chicken eggs. Since they had ready access to chicken embryos in eggs which had been incubated for various lengths of time, it was very easy to break the eggs apart and to describe the embryos at various stages of development.
Taking a broader view, the Koran simply can not be considered scientifically accurate. For example, the creation myth found in the Koran and the descriptions of the sun and moon do not match up at all with what we know from science about these natural phenomena.
Furthermore, it is even harder to fathm how Muslims propose to explain Mohammad's trip to Jerusalem on a mythical beast and fron there the quick trip into heaven to meet with God in one night. There is simply no scientific evidence to support this fantastic story. Even if there were animals which could fly through the air that fast with a man on their back, how they could travel in outer space in a vaccum, without oxygen, is completely inexplicable by science. This story has much more in common with childrens stories or cartoons, which defy the laws of nature, than a believeable fact of history. So long as Muslims continue to accept these fantastic myths as historical fact, they can not logically maintain that the Koran is in any way scientificlly accurate. If they do accept that this story was a myth or a vision rather than a description of an actual event, they then lose all credible claims to the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem since they base their claim to it on this trip. Either this story is true or Muslims have no valid claim to the Dome of the Rock as a Muslim holy site.
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